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Wilhelm Grimm's Zi Wei Dou Shu chart

Author, younger of the Brothers Grimm · born February 24, 1786 in Hanau, Germany

The younger of the Brothers Grimm, who took charge of rewriting Grimms' Fairy Tales from 1815 on. His Life Palace has no main star, but it does hold Wen Qu (Wang).

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Leaders · Empty Palace (borrows Zi Wei)1786 · M1 D26 · Hai hour
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Life Master Wen Qu
Body Master Huo Xing

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Life Palace

Someone helps you settle down and puts your talent to use.

Terms in this palace · Tap for a plain explanation

Someone helps you settle down and puts your talent to use.

The habit of being too clever by half is still yours to watch.

Stars
Empty PalaceNo main star, but Wen Qu is here (expression and talent), so it isn't truly empty: read it first, then the borrowed stars.
Zi Wei NatureYou carry the bearing of the Emperor Star: you like to make the call and keep the whole picture in view. You shine most when you have capable people around you.
Tan Lang NatureYou are curious and many-talented, well liked, and you want a lot from life. With so many interests, pick one or two to go deep on.
Auspicious Stars PresentGood helpers steer your talent toward real work. When the direction is right, the results stay with you.
Zi Wei–Tan LangYour charm and skill get put to use with someone guiding you; aimed at real work, the results become visible.
Borrowed StarsWith no main star in your Life Palace, your basic character is borrowed from Zi Wei and Tan Lang opposite, with less force than if they sat here. The people and setting around you shape you more deeply than most.
Life Master Wen QuYou are naturally expressive and artistic, and you get noticed through expression. Write, speak and make things. Your Life Master sits in your Life Palace, so your thoughts often circle around yourself.
Patterns
Fu Xiang Chao Yuan (Treasury and Minister Pay Court)The Treasury and Seal stars shine into your Life Palace from the trines: resources and stages are often handed to you, and you suit a steady climb within institutions or large organizations.Classic pattern
Helpful TrinesSan Fang Si Zheng brings in Tian Yue, Wen Chang and Tian Kui: you have help and resources in your own life, more than this palace alone suggests.
Transformations
Trines: KeShining in from the Wealth Palace (Wen Chang Hua Ke): people readily vouch for you and speak well of you.
This part follows the Flying Star school: where this palace's stem sends its transformations. It is a different method from the classical reading above.
Lu to HealthThe palace stem sends Ju Men Hua Lu into your Health Palace: the effort you put in here tends to pay off in body and mind.
Self Hua KeYou care about your image and often open doors on reputation. It lasts when real skill backs it up.
Ji to WealthYou tend to worry about money and whether there’s enough. Steady income suits you better than big risks.
Minor Stars
Tian XiYou carry a festive air, and your smile puts people at ease. Without trying, good friends tend to find their way to you.

The Life Palace is about: Who you are at the core: your temperament and innate makeup. Every chart reading starts here.

What the Quan Shu says about this palaceHandsome, refined Wen Chang has clear brows and fine eyes; open, upright Wen Qu has a glib, flattering tongue. In its temple the person is sure to have an unusual mole; in a fallen position, sure to have spots or scars.“Xing Xing Fu” ›When the wealth star sits in Kong Wang, the person grabs at everything here and there; Wen Qu in a Wang palace hears one thing and understands ten. The dark star (Ju Men) secretly combining with Lian Zhen makes a greedy, grasping petty clerk.“Xing Xing Fu” ›Tai Yang, Tai Yin, Wen Qu, Tian Xiang, Tian Tong, Tian Liang, Tian Ji and Wen Chang all give a handsome bearing; this is a clear and striking type: long in the upper body and short in the lower, with fine eyes and clear brows.“Xing Xing Fu” ›My Quan Shu (34 lines on this palace) ›

Where the chart lines up

Sole editor of the tales from 1815

Jacob established the framework for Grimms' Fairy Tales; from 1815 on, Wilhelm alone was responsible for editing and rewriting the tales. He made their style consistent, added dialogue and improved the plots, and many tales grew to twice the length of their earliest versions. In his chart, the Life Palace has no main star but holds Wen Qu (Wang). Wen Qu is often read as literary flair and fine phrasing; his rewriting of collected stories into something pleasant to read can be read alongside this star.

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Lively and often out in society

Wilhelm's character was a complete contrast to his brother's. The visitor Richard Cleasby described him as "an uncommonly animated, jovial fellow"; he was much sought after in society, which he frequented far more than his brother. In his chart, the Travel Palace holds Tan Lang (Li). The Travel Palace covers going out and dealing with people, and Tan Lang is the star of sociability and popularity. It fits his fondness for social occasions.

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Marrying Dortchen in 1825

On May 15, 1825, Wilhelm married Dortchen Wild, a pharmacist's daughter. She was a childhood friend who had also given the brothers several tales, and after the wedding Jacob continued to live in the same household with them. In the Four Transformations of the Decade Luck covering these years (nominal ages 33–42, 1818–1827), Lian Zhen (Li) takes Hua Lu (Transformation of Wealth) and enters his natal Spouse Palace. The Spouse Palace covers marriage and Hua Lu is gain, which lines up with his starting a family in this decade.

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Life Palace

Wilhelm Grimm's Life Palace has no main star (an Empty Palace); it borrows Zi Wei from the opposite palace. Xingge's name for this persona: The Traveler. With the Wood 3 Bureau, that makes the Wood 3 · Empty Palace type among Xingge's 75.

Empty Palace · The Traveler ›Wood 3 · Empty Palace type ›

Birth-year transformations

The stem of Wilhelm Grimm's birth year transforms four stars:

Birth data

Local time 1786-02-24 21:30, from Astro-Databank, Rodden rating AA (birth certificate or record). In true solar time at the birthplace that is 21:16, the Hai hour.

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