Hua Quan and Hua Ke

One wants to be in charge, the other wants to be seen · 3 min

Two kinds of people in a group project

In group projects, two kinds of people are often especially keen. One wants to set the direction for the whole group; the other wants the slides to look perfect.The first is closer to Hua Quan, the second to Hua Ke.

Hua Quan: I'll take charge

makes its star forceful, wanting control and the final say.In whichever cell it sits, you especially want to lead in that area. Used well it's taking responsibility; overdone, it becomes control.

Hua Ke: seen and recognized

gives its star reputation and a scholarly air, and it tends to meet benefactors.In whichever cell it sits, that area is more easily noticed, and you care more about face and standing there.

How Quan and Ke differ

Hua QuanWants results and to lead, like a team lead or store manager.
Hua KeWants reputation and to shine, like winning an award or being recommended.
*Quan Shu*, vol. 1, "What Does Hua Ke Govern?"
The Ke star of the upper realm answers the examinations and governs letters.

In plain wordsThe ancients saw Hua Ke as the star of exams and writing. Today, read it as being graded, being seen, and having a good name.

See it on your chartSample chart

Your Quan and Ke

Find the "Hua Quan" and "Hua Ke" rows and see which cell each sits in: in one, you want to lead; in the other, you want to be seen.

You were born in a Xin year: Ju Men Hua Lu, Tai Yang Hua Quan, Wen Qu Hua Ke and Wen Chang Hua Ji.

Tian TongM
Spouse
Gui Si104–113
Po JunW
Children
Ren Chen94–103
Borrows Tian Ji & Ju Men
WealthBody
Xin Mao84–93
Lian ZhenM
Wen QuPK
Tian Yue
Health
Geng Yin74–83
Wu QuW
Tian FuW
Tian Kui
Siblings
Jia Wu114–123
Tai YangDQ
Tai YinB
Zuo Fu
You Bi
Life
Yi Wei4–13
Communicators · Tai Yang2001 · M4 D26 · Xu hour
YearXinSi
MonthGuiSi
DayXinSi
HourWuXu
Metal 4 Bureau
Life Master Wu Qu
Body Master Tian Ji
Borrows Tai Yang & Tai Yin
Di Kong
Huo XingD
Travel
Xin Chou64–73
Qi ShaW
Wen ChangDJ
Friends
Geng Zi54–63
Tan LangP
Ling XingX
Tuo LuoX
Parents
Bing Shen14–23
Tian JiW
Ju MenML
Lu Cun
Di Jie
Fortune
Ding You24–33
Zi WeiD
Tian XiangD
Qing YangM
Property
Wu Xu34–43
Tian LiangX
Tian Ma
Career
Ji Hai44–53
Hua Lu
Ju Men · in the Fortune Palace
Hua Quan
Tai Yang · in the Life Palace
Hua Ke
Wen Qu · in the Health Palace
Hua Ji
Wen Chang · in the Friends Palace

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Quick quiz

Really wanting to make the call yourself at work is most like which transformation?

  1. Hua Quan
  2. Hua Ke
  3. Hua Lu
See answer

Hua Quan
Hua Quan is leading and control. Hua Ke cares more about reputation and recognition, and Hua Lu is connection and reward.

Wanting to be in charge and wanting to be recognized are two different kinds of drive.

Deeper reading

Hua Quan: strength and leading

gives a star weight. The *Quan Shu* calls it "the spirit of the Quan star that holds judgment", which in ancient terms meant the one holding the power to decide. The modern reading: in the cell where this star sits, you want to be in charge and in control, and you're more willing to shoulder responsibility.

  • In the Life Palace: opinionated, and your words carry weight.
  • In the Wealth Palace: you want control over money and dare to make big decisions.
  • In the Career Palace: suited to being the one in charge, willing to make the call.
  • In the Spouse Palace: love can turn into a tug of war over "who decides"; agreeing on the rules first makes things much smoother.

The *Quan Shu* also notes Hua Quan's other side: "if meeting Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Po Jun, Di Kong or Di Jie, it listens to slander and is dragged into trouble." With challenging stars, Hua Quan can get caught up by believing what others say. In plain terms: when you hold power, filter the voices around you, and don't let people act in your name.

Hua Ke: reputation and recognition

In ancient times was tied to the imperial examinations; the *Quan Shu* says "the Ke star of the upper realm answers the examinations and governs letters". The modern reading: being graded, being seen, having a good image, and often having people who appreciate you.

  • In the Life Palace: a good image with a scholarly air, easily making a good impression.
  • In the Career Palace: your work gets noticed, suited to fields that run on reputation.
  • In the Friends Palace: your circle often includes people who appreciate you, and you pass opportunities to each other.

Hua Ke has a deep reserve of strength. The *Quan Shu* says it "even meeting harsh stars is still a fine scholar of letters": even with challenging stars, the reputation and expertise remain, though it may not reach the very top. Volume two adds that it "most likes meeting Tian Kui and Tian Yue": with those benefactor stars, exams, selections and recommendations all go more smoothly.

Which stars take Hua Quan, which take Hua Ke

By the *Quan Shu*'s transformation rhyme, the ten stars that take Hua Quan are all main stars. Hua Ke is different: besides main stars, it includes three auxiliary stars, Wen Chang (Bing years), You Bi (Wu years) and Wen Qu (Xin years). Tai Yin takes Hua Ke twice, in both Geng and Gui years.

This also says something about their character: Quan needs a main star with real strength to carry it, while Ke is about literary talent and image, so "literary stars" like Wen Chang and Wen Qu make the list.

Quan and Ke meeting

In its discussion of Hua Quan, the *Quan Shu* says "when Ke and Quan meet, one's writing surely leads the age": the ancients read Hua Quan and Hua Ke coming together as both ability and reputation. The San He school often widens "meeting" to being within the same San Fang Si Zheng. Today, think of it as: able to do it, and seen doing it.

Common misunderstandings

  • Hua Quan means becoming a manager. Hua Quan is "I want to decide this myself". In the Wealth Palace, it's managing your own money; in the Property Palace, you have the final say at home. It isn't necessarily about job titles.
  • Hua Ke means becoming famous. Hua Ke is more like word of mouth: your work is taken seriously and remembered, not necessarily the headline-making kind of fame.
  • You only get one of Quan or Ke. Within the same year stem, Hua Quan and Hua Ke go to two different stars, and both are on your chart. Commonly, one area is where you want to lead and another is where you want recognition, like making the calls at work while caring about face among friends.

The same star, different with Quan or Ke

Take Tai Yin: with Hua Quan in Wu years, it wants to run the household and the finances; with Hua Ke in Geng or Gui years, its attentiveness and taste win recognition. So reading the transformations is always three things together: "star + transformation + palace".

Source: *Quan Shu*, vol. 1: "What Does Hua Quan Govern?", "What Does Hua Ke Govern?"
Source: *Quan Shu*, vol. 2, "Rhyme of the Transformations of Lu, Quan, Ke and Ji"

Terms in this lesson

Hua Quan
Control, leadership and strength: you want to call the shots.
Hua Ke
Reputation, dignity and helpers: things are readily seen and recognized.
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