Children Palace
〈子女宮〉
The Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu, Volume 2: Placing the stars and the twelve palaces · Original text with translation
Introduction
This chapter comes from the palace-by-palace verdicts in volume two of the Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu and covers the Children Palace. Unlike the Siblings and Spouse chapters, it opens with four general segments on how to read children:
- General rules (segments 1 to 4): first the stars in the palace itself fix how many sons there are; Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong, Di Jie, malefic stars or Hua Ji bring harm; then check whether the opposite palace clashes. If the palace has no stars, read the opposite palace. Many Southern Dipper stars in the San Fang Si Zheng mean sons, many Northern Dipper stars mean daughters; Tai Yang in a yang palace means a son first, Tai Yin in a yin palace a daughter first. Punishment and malefic stars in the palace with nothing to restrain or transform them mean 「必然絕祀」, the family line is sure to end.
- Star by star (segments 5 to 31): the fourteen main stars, Zuo Fu and You Bi, Wen Chang and Wen Qu, Lu Cun, Qing Yang and Tuo Luo, Huo Xing and Ling Xing, Tian Kui and Tian Yue. Each says how many children, the ratio of sons to daughters, whether they rise high or come to anything, and how malefic stars cut the number, bring harm, or leave 「全無」, none at all.
- The Dou Jun (segment 32).
Common words: 「絕祀」 and 「絕嗣」 mean no descendants, 「送終」 is a child who sees the parents to the grave, 「庶出」 and 「偏室生」 mean born of a concubine, and 「招祀子」 and 「螟蛉之子」 mean an adopted son. The numbers are translated as given; they reflect an age of large families.
The base text of this chapter has more miswritten characters than most: 「不成蓋」 is probably 不成器, 'come to nothing'; the 入 in 「二入」 should be 人; and 「如占星二人」 makes no sense as it stands. The text notes on each segment explain. Segment 7 puts Tian Ji and Tian Liang together in Yin and Shen, but on a chart the two only ever share a palace in Chen and Xu, so that condition cannot be met; a note there explains.
1凡看子女先看本宮星宿主有幾子。若加羊陀火玲空劫殺忌主生子女有刑剋,次看對宮有沖刑否。
TranslationIn reading children, always look first at the stars in the Children Palace itself, which fix how many sons there are. If Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong, Di Jie, malefic stars or Hua Ji are added, the children born suffer harm. Next, see whether the opposite palace clashes with punishment.
- 刑剋
- Harm: the children are injured, meet disaster or die early.
- 對宮
- The opposite palace; for the Children Palace it is the Property Palace.
Textual note: The 玲 in 「火玲」 should be 鈴.
The chapter opens with a method, in this order: the main stars in the palace fix the number, malefic stars and Hua Ji decide harm, then the opposite palace is checked. The palace opposite the Children Palace is always the Property Palace, so the old readers looked at the home when reading children: a settled household gives children somewhere to land. The 子 in 「主有幾子」 leans toward sons in the old texts, from a clan society concerned with carrying on the family line. The numbers need not be taken at face value; read them as how deep the bond with one's children runs and how it plays out. The Children Palace is also often stretched to cover students, juniors, creative work and subordinates.
2如本宮無星曜專看對宮有何星宿主有幾子。若善星貴星守子女宮必主其人生子昌盛貴顯。若惡星又同刑殺守子女宮,不是刑剋,主生強橫破蕩之子。
TranslationIf the palace itself has no stars, look only at what stars are in the opposite palace to fix how many sons there are. If good stars or noble stars guard the Children Palace, the person will surely have children who flourish and rise to eminence. If evil stars, together with punishment and malefic stars, guard the Children Palace, then if it is not harm, the person bears violent sons who squander the family's wealth.
- 破蕩
- Ruining the family; squandering its property.
With no stars in the palace (an empty palace), borrow the stars of the opposite palace: the general rule of reading an empty palace, stated outright here. Good and noble stars mean thriving, eminent children; evil stars with punishment and malefic stars mean, if not harm, then headstrong sons who waste the family's fortune. This gives two directions for bad outcomes: a thin bond (harm), or a bond that exists but is hard to live with (domineering children). In family terms now, the issue may be little time together, or a strong-willed child who takes a great deal of effort to raise.
3又看三方四正得南斗星多主生男,北斗星多主生女。若太陽星落在陽宮主先生男,太陰星落在陰宮主先生女。
TranslationLook also at the San Fang Si Zheng: many Southern Dipper stars mean sons; many Northern Dipper stars mean daughters. If Tai Yang falls in a yang palace, a son is born first; if Tai Yin falls in a yin palace, a daughter is born first.
- 陽宮
- The yang palaces: Zi, Yin, Chen, Wu, Shen and Xu. The yin palaces are Chou, Mao, Si, Wei, You and Hai.
Many Southern Dipper stars for sons, many Northern Dipper stars for daughters: one of the Quan Shu's rare methods for telling sex. The Southern Dipper includes Tian Fu, Tian Liang, Tian Ji, Tian Tong, Tian Xiang and Qi Sha; the Northern Dipper includes Tan Lang, Ju Men, Lu Cun, Wen Qu, Lian Zhen, Wu Qu and Po Jun; Zi Wei, Tai Yang and Tai Yin are written as 「南北斗」 or as central-heaven stars, belonging to both (The Elements and the Dippers). Tai Yang in a yang palace for a son first and Tai Yin in a yin palace for a daughter first match the yin or yang of the star to that of the palace; the note lists which palaces are which. Methods like this are best kept as tradition, not used for prediction.
4專看刑殺守本宮無制化相生,必然絕祀。日生最怕太陰臨,夜生最怕太陽照,此星若在兒女宮方恐無兒。
TranslationLook only at whether punishment and malefic stars guard the palace with nothing to restrain or transform them and no mutual generation: then the family line will surely end. One born by day fears Tai Yin most here; one born by night fears Tai Yang most. If such a star is in the Children Palace, there may be no son.
- 制化
- Restrained and transformed by other stars, so that the harm is defused.
- 絕祀
- The ancestral sacrifices cut off: no descendants to carry on the family.
The first half: punishment and malefic stars in the Children Palace with nothing to restrain or transform them, and no mutual generation, end the line. The second half is an unusual rule: one born by day fears Tai Yin in the Children Palace, one born by night fears Tai Yang. It follows the same thinking as the Tai Yang chapter's 'Xian when born at night, Miao or Wang when born by day', which looks at whether the birth was in daytime or at night. Brightness on a Xingge chart depends only on the palace's branch and makes no day or night distinction, so for this rule readers have to check the birth hour themselves: roughly Mao through Shen counts as a day birth, You through Yin as a night birth. See the lesson on Tai Yang and Tai Yin, where the sun and moon in one palace are discussed.
5紫微廟旺男三女二,加左右昌曲有五人,加羊陀火鈴空劫只一雙,不然偏室生者多,或招祀子居長,破軍同三人,
TranslationZi Wei in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, three sons and two daughters; with Zuo Fu, You Bi, Wen Chang and Wen Qu added, five. With Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, only a pair; otherwise many are born of a concubine, or an adopted son to carry on the line ranks as the eldest. With Po Jun, three.
- 偏室
- A concubine.
- 招祀子居長
- To adopt a son to carry on the ancestral sacrifices, who ranks as the eldest.
Zi Wei in Miao or Wang: three sons and two daughters, five with Zuo Fu, You Bi, Wen Chang and Wen Qu. Zi Wei needs its court of officials (the helper stars), and the Children Palace is no exception: with helpers, children are many and capable. With malefic stars, only a pair, or many born of a concubine, or 「招祀子居長」: adopting a son to be the eldest, the old way of making sure the family had a first son to carry on the line. Zi Wei with Po Jun (Chou, Wei), three. Children with their own minds and a knack for leading, and a family where birth order may not run the usual way. See Zi Wei in the Children Palace.
6天府同加吉星四五人,加昌曲左右有貴子,若獨守再加空劫孤君。
Translation(Zi Wei) with Tian Fu and lucky stars added: four or five. With Wen Chang, Wen Qu, Zuo Fu and You Bi added, sons of rank. If Zi Wei guards the palace alone, with Di Kong and Di Jie added as well, it is a lonely ruler.
- 孤君
- A lonely ruler: Zi Wei without its helpers, like a sovereign without ministers.
Zi Wei with Tian Fu (Yin, Shen) and lucky stars: four or five, sons of rank. 「若獨守再加空劫孤君」: Zi Wei alone in the Children Palace meeting Di Kong and Di Jie is what later writers call the Lonely Ruler, an emperor star without its court. In the Children Palace that reads as children who stand out yet are distant from their parents, or few children. Zi Wei with Tian Fu is emperor plus treasury, so in the Children Palace it means capable children with resources behind them.
7天機廟旺二人,或庶生多,巨門一人,天梁同在寅宮,有二三人,在申宮女多男少,只可一子,太陰同二三人,加羊陀火鈴空劫全無子。
TranslationTian Ji in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, two, or many born of a concubine. With Ju Men, one; with Tian Liang in the Yin palace, two or three, in the Shen palace more daughters than sons, and only one son can be had; with Tai Yin, two or three. With Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, no son at all.
- 庶生
- Born of a concubine.
- 天梁同在寅宮
- On a chart Tian Ji and Tian Liang share a palace only in Chen and Xu, never in Yin or Shen; the star that shares Yin or Shen with Tian Ji is Tai Yin. The line cannot be matched on a chart and is translated as written.
Tian Ji in Miao or Wang: two, or many born of a concubine; with Ju Men (Mao, You), one; with Tai Yin (Yin, Shen), two or three. The 'Tian Liang in the Yin palace' in the middle cannot be matched on a chart, as the note explains. Compare segments 10 and 11: Tian Tong and Tian Liang share a palace in Yin and Shen, and 'two or three in Yin, only one son in Shen' is worded almost the same way there, so this half-sentence was very likely copied by mistake from the Tian Tong entry. Tian Ji in the Children Palace means clever, changeable children, and not many of them. See Tian Ji in the Children Palace.
8太陽入廟男三女二晚子貴,巨門同三人,太陰同五人,陷地有三子不成蓋,再加羊陀火鈴空劫止留一子送終。
TranslationTai Yang in the Children Palace: in its temple, three sons and two daughters, and sons born late rise to rank. With Ju Men, three; with Tai Yin, five. In a Xian position there are three sons, but they come to nothing; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added as well, only one son is left to see the parents to the grave.
- 送終
- To care for a parent at the end of life and carry out the funeral.
Textual note: The 蓋 in 「不成蓋」 is probably an error for 器: 不成器, 'come to nothing'.
Tai Yang in its temple: three sons and two daughters, and 「晚子貴」, a late-born son rises to rank. Tai Yang radiates and gives, so in the Children Palace it means a parent who gives a great deal to the children, and children who are outgoing and make their mark. In Xian, three sons who come to nothing; with malefic stars, only one son left to see the parent to the grave. That was the most basic thing the old world expected of children: at least one at one's side to handle the last rites. Tai Yang is Xian in Hai and Zi, which shows directly on the chart. See Tai Yang in the Children Palace.
9武曲主一子或成至生者多,破軍同主刑,止有一人,加羊陀火鈴空劫絕祀,貪狼晚招二子,天相同先招外子,後親生一子,七殺同主孤或傷殘之子。
TranslationWu Qu in the Children Palace: one son, or many born of a concubine. With Po Jun, harm, and only one; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, the family line ends. With Tan Lang, two sons come late; with Tian Xiang, first a son from outside is taken in, and later one son of one's own is born; with Qi Sha, loneliness, or a son who is injured or disabled.
- 外子
- Here, a son not born to one: an adopted son or a son from an earlier marriage.
Textual note: 「或成至生者多」 makes no sense as it stands; 成至 is probably a garbled 庶, giving 'or many born of a concubine', and the translation follows that.
Wu Qu: one son; with Po Jun (Si, Hai), harm, and with malefic stars no heirs; with Tan Lang (Chou, Wei), two sons who come late; with Tian Xiang (Yin, Shen), a son from outside first and then one of one's own; with Qi Sha (Mao, You), loneliness or an injured or disabled son. Wu Qu is the star of the lonely widow, so its bond with children runs thin. The 'son from outside' is explained in the note. In families today: having children late or having few, or a stepchild or adopted child in the picture. See Wu Qu in the Children Palace.
10天同廟旺五子有貴,巨門同三人,太陰同五人,在午宮陷地減半,天梁同先女後男有二子,守在申宮只可留一子送終,
TranslationTian Tong in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, five sons, some of rank. With Ju Men, three; with Tai Yin, five, but in the Wu palace, a Xian position, halved. With Tian Liang, a daughter first and then sons, two sons; guarding the Shen palace, only one son is left to see the parents to the grave.
Tian Tong in Miao or Wang gives five sons, some of rank, one of the best main-star verdicts in this palace: Tian Tong is the star of blessing, so children are many and harmonious. Tian Tong shares a palace with Tai Yin in Zi and Wu; in Wu, Tian Tong is Xian and Tai Yin is Bu, hence 'halved', which matches the brightness Xingge marks. With Tian Liang in Yin and Shen, 「先女後男」, a daughter first, and in Shen only one son. Tian Tong in the Children Palace means an easy relationship with easy-going children. See Tian Tong in the Children Palace.
11在寅宮加吉星有三子,加羊陀火鈴空劫見刑剋,子少送終。
Translation(Tian Tong and Tian Liang) in the Yin palace with lucky stars added: three sons. With Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, harm is seen; few sons, and few to see the parents to the grave.
This continues Tian Tong with Tian Liang: in Yin with lucky stars, three sons; with malefic stars, few sons to see one to the grave. In Yin, Tian Liang is Miao and Tian Tong is Li; in Shen, Tian Liang is Xian and Tian Tong is Wang, so Yin is the better of the two, which agrees with 'only one son in Shen' in the previous segment. It is also one of the few places where the Quan Shu splits the same pair across its two palaces, so watch the branch when reading a chart.
12廉貞一人,天府同主貴子三人,若貪狼破軍七殺同主孤,再加羊陀火鈴空劫全無,天相同有二子。
TranslationLian Zhen in the Children Palace: one. With Tian Fu, three sons of rank. If with Tan Lang, Po Jun or Qi Sha, loneliness; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added as well, none at all. With Tian Xiang, two sons.
Lian Zhen in the Children Palace: one; with Tian Fu (Chen, Xu), three sons of rank; with Tan Lang, Po Jun or Qi Sha, loneliness; with Tian Xiang (Zi, Wu), two sons. Lian Zhen can share a palace with five stars, and this entry lists all five, with a clear ranking: Tian Fu and Tian Xiang rein Lian Zhen in, while Qi Sha, Po Jun and Tan Lang magnify its harm. It is the same logic as the Tian Xiang chapter, where Tian Xiang can also defuse Lian Zhen's malice. See Lian Zhen in the Children Palace.
13天府五人,武曲同二人,紫微同四五人,廉貞同三人,加羊陀火鈴空劫止三人。
TranslationTian Fu in the Children Palace: five. With Wu Qu, two; with Zi Wei, four or five; with Lian Zhen, three; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, only three.
Tian Fu in the Children Palace: five; with Zi Wei, four or five; with Lian Zhen, three; with Wu Qu, two; and even with malefic stars, three. Tian Fu is the treasury, so in the Children Palace it means many children and heirs to the family business. Malefic stars only bring the number down to three, a sign of how solid Tian Fu's treasury is and how little the malefic stars can do to it, in line with the Tian Fu chapter's 「能制羊陀為從,能化火鈴為福」, it can make Qing Yang and Tuo Luo its followers and turn Huo Xing and Ling Xing into blessings. See Tian Fu in the Children Palace.
14太陰女三男二先女後男,廟旺有貴子,陷地減半,招軟弱之子,或虛花不成器,
TranslationTai Yin in the Children Palace: three daughters and two sons, daughters first and then sons. In Miao or Wang, sons of rank; in a Xian position, halved, with weak sons, or sons who are all flower and no fruit and come to nothing.
- 虛花
- A flower that bears no fruit: all show and no substance, coming to nothing.
Tai Yin in the Children Palace: three daughters and two sons, daughters first. Tai Yin is yin, hence more daughters and a daughter first, echoing segment 3's 「太陰星落在陰宮主先生女」. In Miao or Wang, sons of rank; in Xian, weak sons, or 「虛花不成器」, all show and nothing more. Tai Yin is Xian in Mao, Chen and Si, which can be read off the chart. Sensitive, finely tuned children, and a relationship built on sharing feelings. See Tai Yin in the Children Palace.
15太陽同五人,天機同二人,天同同五人,廟地無剋,陷宮有剋,加羊陀火鈴空劫子少。
Translation(Tai Yin) with Tai Yang, five; with Tian Ji, two; with Tian Tong, five. In a temple position, no harm; in a Xian palace, harm; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, few children.
This continues Tai Yin's companions: with Tai Yang (Chou, Wei), five; with Tian Ji (Yin, Shen), two; with Tian Tong (Zi, Wu), five. The sun and moon share a palace in Chou and Wei, a male and a female temperament together, hence many children. No harm in a temple position, harm in a Xian palace: brightness still decides. When the sun and moon share a palace, their brightness differs: in Chou, Tai Yin is Miao and Tai Yang is Bu; in Wei the balance tips the other way, with Tai Yang at De and Tai Yin at Bu. Read the two separately.
16貪狼廟旺二人,早有刑剋,紫微同二人,廉貞同子少,如占星二人,武曲同三人,先難後易。
TranslationTan Lang in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, two, with harm early on. With Zi Wei, two; with Lian Zhen, few children; 'if it occupies a star, two'; with Wu Qu, three, hard at first and easy later.
Textual note: 「如占星二人」 makes no sense as it stands and probably contains a miswritten character; the translation keeps it as written.
Tan Lang in Miao or Wang: two, with harm early; with Zi Wei (Mao, You), two; with Lian Zhen (Si, Hai), few; with Wu Qu (Chou, Wei), three, hard at first and easy later. The text note covers 「如占星二人」. 'Hard first, easy later' for Tan Lang with Wu Qu has the same rhythm as the Gu Sui Fu's 「貪武墓中居,三十才發福」 (Gu Sui Fu): early years of struggle, good things late. Today that is having children late, or children who bloom late. See Tan Lang in the Children Palace.
17巨門入廟二入,先難後易,太陽同居一二子易養,加羊陀火鈴子少,天機同一人,有吉星同二人加空劫全無。
TranslationJu Men in the Children Palace: in its temple, two; hard at first and easy later. With Tai Yang, one or two sons, easy to raise; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing or Ling Xing added, few children. With Tian Ji, one; with lucky stars in the same palace, two; with Di Kong and Di Jie added, none at all.
Textual note: The 入 in 「二入」 should be 人.
Ju Men in its temple: two, hard at first and easy later; with Tai Yang (Yin, Shen), one or two sons, easy to raise; with Tian Ji (Mao, You), one. As in the Spouse and Siblings Palaces, the key for Ju Men is Tai Yang: with the sun beside it, children are easy to raise. Ju Men rules words, so between parent and child there is a lot of talk, and a lot of arguing. 'Hard first, easy later': a child who is a handful when small and easier grown up. See Ju Men in the Children Palace.
18天相無羊陀火鈴同有二子成器,有殺先招祀子居長,親生一二子,
TranslationTian Xiang in the Children Palace: with no Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing or Ling Xing in the same palace, two sons who make something of themselves. With malefic stars, first an adopted son to carry on the line ranks as the eldest, then one or two sons of one's own.
Tian Xiang with no malefic stars: two sons who amount to something; with malefic stars, an adopted heir as eldest first, then one or two of one's own. 「招祀子居長」 appears again, as in segment 5 for Zi Wei: the old remedy of adopting an eldest son to absorb the harm. Tian Xiang is the mediator, so in the Children Palace it means sensible, steady children. With Tian Xiang in the Children Palace, the Property Palace opposite always holds Po Jun; a home that sees a lot of change may show in the setting the children grow up in. See Tian Xiang in the Children Palace.
19紫微同如昌曲左右有三四人,武曲同有三人,見羊陀火鈴空劫必剋,宜偏室生。
Translation(Tian Xiang) with Zi Wei, if there are Wen Chang, Wen Qu, Zuo Fu and You Bi, three or four; with Wu Qu, three. Seeing Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, there will surely be harm; it is better that they be born of a concubine.
This continues Tian Xiang: with Zi Wei (Chen, Xu) plus Wen Chang, Wen Qu, Zuo Fu and You Bi, three or four; with Wu Qu (Yin, Shen), three; with malefic stars, certain harm, better born of a concubine. 「宜偏室生」 was the old remedy of taking a concubine to have children. It no longer applies; it can be read as the bond with children not necessarily arriving the conventional way, as in a blended family or adoption. It agrees with the Tian Xiang chapter's assessment: Zi Wei with Tian Xiang and Wu Qu with Tian Xiang are both patterns of wealth and office, and in the Children Palace they also suggest children who make something of themselves.
20天梁廟旺二人,加羊陀火鈴空劫早剋,天同同加昌曲左右吉星有三人,天機同有二人,加羊陀火鈴空劫全無。
TranslationTian Liang in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, two; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, early harm. With Tian Tong, plus lucky stars such as Wen Chang, Wen Qu, Zuo Fu and You Bi, three; with Tian Ji, two; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie added, none at all.
Tian Liang in Miao or Wang: two, with early harm if malefic stars come; with Tian Tong (Yin, Shen) and lucky stars, three; with Tian Ji (Chen, Xu), two. Tian Liang is the star of shelter, so in the Children Palace it means a parent who looks after the children a great deal, and children who are mature and sensible. The relationship is like teacher and pupil, with the parent often in the role of instructor. See Tian Liang in the Children Palace.
21七殺主孤一人之分,紫微同再吉星有三人,見羊陀火鈴空劫全無,縱有不成器,必強橫敗家之子。
TranslationQi Sha in the Children Palace: loneliness; a share of only one. With Zi Wei and lucky stars as well, three. Seeing Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, none at all; and even if there is one, he comes to nothing and is sure to be a violent son who ruins the family.
Qi Sha means loneliness, a share of one; with Zi Wei (Si, Hai) and lucky stars, three. With malefic stars, none, and any there are will be 「強橫敗家之子」, headstrong sons who ruin the family, echoing the general rule in segment 2. Qi Sha in the Children Palace means independent, strong-willed children, and parent and child easily butt heads. Tian Fu always sits opposite Qi Sha, so with Qi Sha in the Children Palace, the Property Palace always holds Tian Fu: the family estate is solid, but the children may not be able to hold on to it. See Qi Sha in the Children Palace.
22破軍入廟三人,剛強之子,紫微同三人,武曲同加昌曲左右有三人,廉貞同一人,見羊陀相生有制,無制見空劫火陀少子。
TranslationPo Jun in the Children Palace: in its temple, three, sons of firm and strong character. With Zi Wei, three; with Wu Qu plus Wen Chang, Wen Qu, Zuo Fu and You Bi, three; with Lian Zhen, one. Seeing Qing Yang or Tuo Luo, where they generate each other, there is restraint; without restraint, seeing Di Kong, Di Jie, Huo Xing or Tuo Luo, few sons.
Po Jun in its temple (Zi, Wu): three, strong-willed sons; with Zi Wei, three; with Wu Qu and lucky stars, three; with Lian Zhen (Mao, You), one. 「見羊陀相生有制」: when Po Jun meets Qing Yang or Tuo Luo, if the elements generate each other and there is restraint, the harm is held in check after all. Po Jun in the Children Palace means pioneering children who are not content with things as they are, and who may leave home early to make their own way. See Po Jun in the Children Palace.
23左輔單居男三女一,見紫微天府諸吉星主貴子,見破殺羊陀火鈴空劫止二人,有也不成器。
TranslationZuo Fu alone in the Children Palace: three sons and one daughter. Seeing Zi Wei, Tian Fu and other lucky stars, sons of rank. Seeing Po Jun, Qi Sha, Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, only two, and even those come to nothing.
Zuo Fu alone: three sons and one daughter; seeing Zi Wei and Tian Fu, sons of rank; seeing Po Jun, Qi Sha and the malefic stars, only two, who come to nothing. Here Zuo Fu is the main star being judged (it sits alone), which shows that when a helper star sits in an otherwise empty palace, the Quan Shu also uses it to fix the number. Po Jun and Qi Sha listed alongside the malefic stars is the Quan Shu's familiar 'Sha Po Lang plus malefic stars' grouping. In today's terms: well-liked children who find help.
24右弼三人加吉星有貴子,見羊陀火鈴空劫減半。
TranslationYou Bi in the Children Palace: three; with lucky stars added, sons of rank. Seeing Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, halved.
You Bi: three; with lucky stars, sons of rank; with malefic stars, halved. This entry is simpler than Zuo Fu's and milder in outcome: malefic stars only halve the number, with no 'comes to nothing'. That fits the tone of the You Bi chapter, 「若與諸殺同纏及羊陀火鈴忌沖合者僅主福薄亦不為凶」: with malefic stars, only thinner blessings, not misfortune. Throughout the Quan Shu, You Bi is written as a star that can take the weight of malefic stars.
25文昌三人,加吉星更多,有擎陀火鈴空劫只可一子之分。
TranslationWen Chang in the Children Palace: three; with lucky stars added, more. With Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, only a share of one son.
Wen Chang in the Children Palace: three, more with lucky stars; with malefic stars, a share of one son. Wen Chang rules documents and study, so in the Children Palace it means children who do well at school and value qualifications. Wen Chang is placed by the birth hour and has no fixed link to the main stars, so the actual chart has to be checked. Children who do well academically, with parents who prize education: the familiar picture of a family built around schooling.
26文曲廟旺有四人,陷地有二三人,加擎羊羅陀火鈴子少。
TranslationWen Qu in the Children Palace: in Miao or Wang, four; in a Xian position, two or three; with Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing or Ling Xing added, few children.
Wen Qu in Miao or Wang: four; in Xian, two or three; with malefic stars, few. Wen Qu's weak positions are Yin, Wu and Xu (Xian in Wu and Xu, Ping in Yin), which Xingge marks. Wen Qu in the Children Palace means children with artistic gifts and a way with words. Compared with Wen Chang, Wen Qu gives one more child, perhaps because Wen Qu belongs to water and rules flow, which the old readers thought better for bearing and raising children. Details like this need not be pressed; the general direction is what counts.
27祿存主孤宜庶出一螟蛉之子,加吉星有一人,加火星諸殺孤刑。
TranslationLu Cun in the Children Palace: loneliness; better to have a child by a concubine, or one adopted son. With lucky stars added, one. With Huo Xing and the other malefic stars added, loneliness and harm.
- 螟蛉之子
- An adopted son. The ancients believed the potter wasp raised the larvae of the mulberry moth as its own young.
Lu Cun in the Children Palace 「主孤」: better a child by a concubine or an adopted 「螟蛉之子」 (see the note). With Lu Cun in the Children Palace, Qing Yang and Tuo Luo always sit in the Spouse and Wealth Palaces, flanking it, which is why the old readers judged it lonely. It is the same character as Lu Cun in the Life Palace being a 'miser guarding his money': it holds on but does not expand. The likely picture now: few children, or adoption or stepchildren in the family.
28羊陀陷宮孤單,加吉星廟旺有一人,如對宮有吉星多無殺沖,亦有三四人,見耗殺忌,在本宮絕嗣。
TranslationQing Yang and Tuo Luo in the Children Palace: in a Xian palace, alone. With lucky stars added and in Miao or Wang, one. If the opposite palace has many lucky stars and no malefic stars clashing, there may still be three or four. Seeing the star of waste, malefic stars or Hua Ji in the palace itself, no heirs.
Qing Yang and Tuo Luo in the Children Palace: alone in a Xian palace; in the temple with lucky stars, one; with many lucky stars opposite and no clash, three or four; with the star of waste, malefic stars or Hua Ji in the palace, no heirs. 'Many lucky stars in the opposite palace' goes back to the general rule of segments 1 and 2: the Children Palace is read together with the Property Palace. Qing Yang and Tuo Luo are in their temple in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei. In real life: friction between parent and child, and how stable the home (the Property Palace) is affects how the relationship goes.
29火星逢吉同不孤,陷宮加殺刑傷。
TranslationHuo Xing in the Children Palace: with lucky stars in the same palace, not alone. In a Xian palace with malefic stars added, injury.
Huo Xing with lucky stars: not alone; in a Xian palace with malefic stars, injury. Huo Xing is Xian in Shen, Zi and Chen, and Xingge marks its brightness. The entry is short, and the rule is the same as for the other malefic stars: lucky stars rescue, a Xian position harms. Children who are hasty and full of drive, and parents who need a little extra patience.
30鈴星獨守孤單,加吉星入廟可許庶出,看對宮吉多二三人。
TranslationLing Xing guarding the Children Palace alone: alone. With lucky stars added and in its temple, children by a concubine may be allowed; look at the opposite palace: with many lucky stars there, two or three.
Ling Xing alone: alone; with lucky stars and in its temple, 「可許庶出」; with many lucky stars opposite, two or three. 'Children by a concubine may be allowed' is an old remedy; today it reads as the bond with children possibly coming in an unconventional way. As with Huo Xing, the good or bad of the Property Palace opposite affects the outcome. In everyday language: feelings between parent and child that go unspoken, and need more talking through.
31魁鉞單守主有貴子。
TranslationTian Kui and Tian Yue guarding the Children Palace alone: there will be sons of rank.
The Xingge approach「單守」 means the Children Palace has no main star, only Tian Kui and Tian Yue. The chart conditions cannot express 'no main star in the same palace', so this line is not matched to charts.
Tian Kui and Tian Yue alone in the Children Palace: sons of rank. The Xingge approach above explains why 'alone' cannot be matched to charts. Kui and Yue are the noble-helper stars, so in the Children Palace the children are benefactors, or win the backing of benefactors. The section on star combinations says 「魁鉞命身多折桂」 (Star Combinations: Kui Yue, Zuo Fu, You Bi and Lu Cun), and here the link between Kui and Yue and examination success reaches the children. Children who go far, often noticed by elders or teachers.
32斗君在子女宮過度,逢吉子女昌盛,逢凶刑剋或子破家。
TranslationWhen the Dou Jun passes through the Children Palace: meeting lucky stars, the children flourish; meeting malefic stars, harm, or a son who ruins the family.
- 斗君
- Dou Jun: the palace where the first lunar month falls within a given year; the months are counted from it.
In the year the Dou Jun passes through the Children Palace, lucky stars mean thriving children; malefic stars, harm or a son who ruins the family. This is the fixed Dou Jun ending of each palace chapter. When the year or month reaches the Children Palace, it is a time to watch the relationship with one's children, their schooling and their health. Overlay the year on Xingge and look at where the Dou Jun and the annual Life Palace fall to see which month of the year lands on the Children Palace.
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FAQ
How do you read the Children Palace in Zi Wei Dou Shu?
The Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu says to look first at the stars in the Children Palace itself to fix how many sons there are; Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong, Di Jie or Hua Ji added mean harm; then check whether the opposite palace clashes. If the palace has no main star, read the stars of the opposite palace instead. Many Southern Dipper stars in the San Fang Si Zheng mean mostly sons; many Northern Dipper stars, mostly daughters.
Can the Children Palace show whether the first child is a boy or a girl?
The Quan Shu says: 「若太陽星落在陽宮主先生男,太陰星落在陰宮主先生女。」 Tai Yang in a yang palace means a son first; Tai Yin in a yin palace means a daughter first. The yang palaces are Zi, Yin, Chen, Wu, Shen and Xu; the yin palaces are Chou, Mao, Si, Wei, You and Hai. It also says many Southern Dipper stars in the San Fang Si Zheng mean mostly sons, and many Northern Dipper stars mostly daughters.
Do malefic stars in the Children Palace mean no children?
Most entries in the Quan Shu say Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie mean fewer children and harm, and some combinations say 「全無」 or 「絕祀」, none at all or no heirs: Tian Ji, Wu Qu with Po Jun, Tian Liang, and Qi Sha with the four malefic stars and Di Kong and Di Jie, for example. There are exceptions: with many lucky stars in the opposite palace, or a lucky star in the palace to restrain the malefic ones, there are still children.
How many children does Zi Wei in the Children Palace give?
The Quan Shu says Zi Wei in Miao or Wang in the Children Palace gives 「男三女二」, three sons and two daughters, and five with Zuo Fu, You Bi, Wen Chang and Wen Qu. With Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing, Ling Xing, Di Kong or Di Jie, only a pair, or mostly children of a concubine, or an adopted son as the eldest. With Po Jun, three; with Tian Fu and lucky stars, four or five.
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