Star Combinations: Qing Yang and Tuo Luo

〈論諸星同垣:擎羊陀羅〉

The Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu, Volume 3: Reading a life and its luck periods · Original text with translation

Introduction

This page is the Qing Yang and Tuo Luo part of the star-combination chapter in volume three of the Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu, fifteen lines in all.

There are two brightness lines: Qing Yang is Miao (Temple) in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei and Xian (Fallen) in Zi, Wu, Mao and You; Tuo Luo is Miao in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei and Xian in Yin, Shen, Si and Hai. Both match Xingge.

Qing Yang's verdicts are mixed: in a Miao palace, 「富貴聲揚」, rich, noble and famous; with Huo Xing in the same palace, 「威權壓眾」, authority over the crowd; but in Zi, Wu, Mao or You, 「非夭折而刑傷」, if not an early death then injury; meeting Li Shi, 「李廣難封」, like Li Guang never made a marquis; Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing and Ling Xing in the Body or Life Palace, a bent back; Hua Ji flanked by Qing Yang and Tuo Luo, a ruined pattern; Qing Yang with Huo Xing, a low pattern. Several lines deal with the Annual Luck: Qing Yang and Ling Xing in the Life Palace meeting the annual Bai Hu, Qing Yang facing the Life Palace with the year stacking Qing Yang and Tuo Luo again, Qing Yang meeting the annual Qing Yang; these must be read with the luck periods. Tuo Luo has only one line: in Yin, Shen, Si or Hai, 'if not an early death then injury', and the note's author says he tested it himself: those who mostly leave the ancestral home and set up a household elsewhere are lucky too, and the person's face is marked.

「羊火同宮,威權壓眾」 and 「擎羊火星為下格」 contradict each other on the same page; both are translated as written. In the base text 「辰戍」 should be 辰戌, and 「除宮」 probably stands for 'the other palaces'.

1擎羊 廟辰戌丑未 陷子午卯酉

TranslationQing Yang's brightness: Miao in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei; Xian in Zi, Wu, Mao and You.

廟
Miao (Temple): the position where a star works best.
陷
Xian (Fallen): a position where the star has no strength.
Commentary

Qing Yang always sits in the palace after Lu Cun, and Lu Cun falls only in eight palaces, Zi, Yin, Mao, Si, Wu, Shen, You and Hai, so Qing Yang appears only in Zi, Chou, Mao, Chen, Wu, Wei, You and Xu, and never in Yin, Shen, Si or Hai. This table splits those eight palaces neatly in half: Miao in the four tombs, Xian in the four cardinal palaces, with no grade in between, and Xingge's brightness table is the same. Qing Yang belongs to metal and is nourished by the earth of the four tombs, hence Miao there; in Zi, Wu, Mao and You, the cardinal positions where qi is strongest, its harmful nature is fiercest. For Qing Yang's character as a whole, see The Nature of Qing Yang.

✎ Note

2擎羊入廟富貴聲揚 加吉萬論。

TranslationQing Yang in a Miao palace: rich and noble, the name spreading. (Note) With lucky stars added, 'ten thousand' judgments (probably 'only then': judge so only with lucky stars).

Commentary

Qing Yang in a Miao palace is rich, noble and famous, and the note says only with lucky stars. The year stems behind Qing Yang in the four tombs are fixed: Chen in Yi years, Xu in Xin years, Chou in Gui years, Wei in Ding and Ji years. A malefic star in its temple can achieve things, the Quan Shu's consistent logic about the Six Malefic Stars: malefic force put in the right place becomes authority. It describes someone bold, competitive and able to decide under pressure, provided lucky stars in the Life Palace's San Fang guide it.

✎ Note

3羊火同宮威權壓眾 辰戍人佳,丑未次之。

TranslationQing Yang and Huo Xing in the same palace: authority that overawes the crowd. (Note) People born in Chen or Xu years are good, Chou and Wei next.

Textual note: In the note's 「辰戍人」, the 戍 should be the Earthly Branch 戌 (Xu).

The Xingge approachThe Quan Shu contradicts itself: here Qing Yang and Huo Xing in one palace are 「威權壓眾」, while later on the same page 「擎羊火星為下格」.

Commentary

The original is the Gu Sui Fu's 「擎羊火星威權出眾」 (segment 36). 'The Xingge approach' above points out that segment 12 of this page says the opposite, a low pattern. The note gives a clue for reconciling them: Chen and Xu good, Chou and Wei next. Qing Yang is Miao in all four tombs, while Huo Xing is Miao in Xu, De in Chou, Li in Wei and Xian in Chen, so Qing Yang with Huo Xing is good when both are strong and a low pattern in fallen positions. When the Quan Shu contradicts itself, breaking the line down by brightness often shows that each version has its own conditions.

✎ Note

4羊陀鈴火守身命腰駝背曲之人

TranslationQing Yang, Tuo Luo, Ling Xing and Huo Xing guarding the Body and Life Palaces: a person with a bent waist and crooked back.

Commentary

The Qi Sha page also has 「七殺重逢四殺腰陀背曲」 (segment 8), so the four malefic stars and the spine and posture are a fixed link in the Quan Shu. Qing Yang and Tuo Luo never share a palace, so in practice this means some of them in the Body Palace and some in the Life Palace, or some in the palace and the rest meeting it. Physical verdicts like this one can be compared against reality, but should not be treated as certain.

✎ Note

5擎羊子午卯酉非夭折而刑傷 午凶卯次之。子酉又次之,馬頭帶劍,吉多勿論。

TranslationQing Yang in Zi, Wu, Mao or You: if not an early death, then injury. (Note) Worst in Wu, Mao next, Zi and You after that; this is the sword at the horse's head. With many lucky stars, do not judge so.

Commentary

Qing Yang is fallen in Zi, Wu, Mao and You; the note ranks Wu worst, Mao next, Zi and You after, and calls it 'the sword at the horse's head'. Curiously, the Tian Tong page of this chapter treats the same Qing Yang in Wu, the Ma Tou Dai Jian (arrow at the horse's head), as rich and noble for people born in Bing or Wu years, guarding the frontier. The difference lies in the companion stars: that line has Tian Tong or Tan Lang and specifies Bing or Wu years, while this one has Qing Yang alone in Wu. The note ends with 'with many lucky stars, do not judge so': the same pattern turns from unlucky to lucky with different company.

✎ Note

6擎羊逢力士李廣難封 甲生人命卯,丙生人命午,庚生人命酉,壬生人命子。吉多平常,加殺則凶

TranslationQing Yang meeting Li Shi: like Li Guang, hard to ennoble. (Note) People born in Jia years with the Life Palace in Mao, Bing years in Wu, Geng years in You, Ren years in Zi. With many lucky stars, ordinary; with malefic stars added, unlucky.

力士
Li Shi (the Strongman), one of the twelve Bo Shi spirits.
李廣難封
Li Guang, a famous Han dynasty general, won countless battles but was never made a marquis.
Commentary

The original is the Gu Sui Fu's 「李廣不封擎羊逢於力士」 (segment 37). Li Shi is the second of the twelve Bo Shi spirits, which start from Lu Cun, so counting forward Li Shi lands exactly on Qing Yang, and counting backward on Tuo Luo. The note's Jia-Mao, Bing-Wu, Geng-You and Ren-Zi are all where Qing Yang sits in yang years, that is, the case of a yang-year man counting forward, where Qing Yang and Li Shi always share a palace. Every palace on a Xingge chart carries its Bo Shi spirit, so readers can check this for themselves.

✎ Note

7羊陀火鈴逢吉發財凶則忌

TranslationQing Yang, Tuo Luo, Huo Xing and Ling Xing: meeting lucky stars, making money; meeting malefic stars, to be dreaded.

Commentary

This is the Quan Shu's general principle for the Six Malefic Stars: a malefic star is force in itself, and good or bad depends on what it joins. Set against the Tai Wei Fu's 「七殺破軍專依羊鈴之虐」, the same malefic stars turn cruel with Qi Sha and Po Jun and make money with lucky stars. Today this can be read as saying that pressure and competition are not bad in themselves; what matters is whether resources and support turn them into results.

✎ Note

8羊鈴坐命流年白虎災傷 流年白虎,又到命宮也。

TranslationQing Yang and Ling Xing in the Life Palace, with Bai Hu in the Annual Luck: disaster and injury. (Note) That is, the annual Bai Hu also reaching the Life Palace.

白虎
Bai Hu (White Tiger), one of the twelve Sui Qian spirits of the year.
Commentary

Qing Yang and Ling Xing in the Life Palace, with the annual Bai Hu also arriving there: disaster and injury. The Tai Wei Fu says 「鈴羊合於命宮遇白虎,須當刑戮」 (segment 42), almost the same condition with a heavier conclusion. Bai Hu is one of the twelve Sui Qian spirits of the year. In the Annual Luck of a Xingge chart, each palace's Sui Qian spirits are that year's set; see whether Bai Hu falls in the natal Life Palace.

✎ Note

9擎羊對守在酉宮歲迭羊陀庚命凶 除宮亦忌,守命宮有羊陀。流年遇羊陀,為迭並。

TranslationQing Yang facing the Life Palace from You, and the year stacking Qing Yang and Tuo Luo again: unlucky for a person born in a Geng year. (Note) The other palaces are also to be feared: Qing Yang or Tuo Luo guarding the Life Palace, and the Annual Luck meeting Qing Yang and Tuo Luo, is stacking.

歲迭羊陀
The annual Qing Yang and Tuo Luo overlapping the natal Qing Yang and Tuo Luo: Qing Yang and Tuo Luo stacked.

Textual note: In the note's 「除宮亦忌」, 除 probably stands for 餘, 'the other palaces'.

The Xingge approachThe original note requires 「流年遇羊陀,為迭並」, a condition of the Annual Luck that cannot be read from the natal chart, so no chart condition is given for this line.

Commentary

This line is the prototype of Qing Yang and Tuo Luo Stacked: a person born in a Geng year, the Life Palace in Mao, Qing Yang facing it from You, and the Annual Luck meeting Qing Yang and Tuo Luo again. The note widens stacking to the other palaces: natal Qing Yang or Tuo Luo in the Life Palace, and the year bringing them again. So the Quan Shu's 'stacking' comes in a narrow and a broad sense: narrow, the natal and annual Qing Yang in the same palace; broad, natal Qing Yang or Tuo Luo with the year bringing them again. On a Xingge chart the natal Qing Yang and Tuo Luo belong to the natal chart, while the annual ones belong to the Annual Luck.

✎ Note

10羊陀夾忌為敗局 假如安命在申宮,又逢忌星,羊在酉陀在未夾之,餘皆仿此為例。命歲凶孤貧刑剋。若單守祿存無吉星同垣,亦有災殃之凶。

TranslationHua Ji flanked by Qing Yang and Tuo Luo: a ruined pattern. (Note) For example, the Life Palace in the Shen palace, meeting Hua Ji as well, with Qing Yang in You and Tuo Luo in Wei flanking it; the rest by analogy. In the Life Palace or a luck period, unlucky: lonely, poor, harmful to relatives. Even Lu Cun guarding alone without lucky stars in the same palace brings the misfortune of disaster.

Commentary

Yang Tuo Jia Ji (Hua Ji flanked by Qing Yang and Tuo Luo) carries a certainty of the chart rules: Qing Yang and Tuo Luo always flank Lu Cun, so the palace they flank always holds Lu Cun. Hua Ji flanked by the two is in fact Lu Cun and Hua Ji in the same palace. The note's example, Life in Shen with Qing Yang in You and Tuo Luo in Wei, is a Geng year (Lu Cun in Shen), and in a Geng year the star with Hua Ji is Tian Tong, so this chart has Tian Tong in the Life Palace in Shen with Lu Cun. The note's last sentence, that even Lu Cun alone without lucky stars brings disaster, follows exactly from Lu Cun always being flanked.

✎ Note

11羊陀流年鈴破面字斑痕

TranslationQing Yang and Tuo Luo, with Ling Xing in the Annual Luck: a broken face, a tattooed face or scars.

面字
Characters tattooed on the face, an old punishment.
Commentary

Tattooing was an old punishment, marking a criminal's face with characters. Note that Xingge's annual stars include the annual Lu Cun, Qing Yang, Tuo Luo, Tian Ma, Tian Kui, Tian Yue, Wen Chang and Wen Qu, but no annual Ling Xing, so the 'annual Ling Xing' cannot be seen on a Xingge chart; it can be read as the Annual Luck reaching the palace of the natal Ling Xing. In modern terms, a reminder that the face is prone to injury or scarring.

✎ Note

12擎羊火星為下格

TranslationQing Yang with Huo Xing: a low pattern.

The Xingge approachThe Quan Shu contradicts itself: earlier on the same page it says 「羊火同宮,威權壓眾」.

Commentary

'The Xingge approach' above notes the contradiction with segment 3. One addition: the Huo Xing and Ling Xing page also has 「擎羊火鈴為下格」 (segment 6), with a note that for a woman it is still acceptable in Miao or Wang positions and base in fallen ones. So the 'low pattern' side appears twice in the Quan Shu, and 'authority over the crowd' also twice (the Gu Sui Fu and this page), evenly matched. Separating them by brightness is the more reasonable reading: Huo Xing is Miao in Yin, Wu and Xu, Qing Yang in the four tombs, and the only palace where both are Miao at once is Xu.

✎ Note

13擎羊重逢流羊西施傾殞身 歲限重逢。

TranslationQing Yang meeting the annual Qing Yang again: like Xi Shi, falling and perishing. (Note) The year and the luck period meet again.

西施
Xi Shi, a beauty of the state of Yue in the Spring and Autumn period, said to have died by drowning in the end.
Commentary

Qing Yang meeting the annual Qing Yang is the Qing Yang version of Qing Yang and Tuo Luo Stacked: the annual Qing Yang returning to the palace of the natal Qing Yang. The annual Qing Yang follows the year's Heavenly Stem, so it meets the natal one whenever the year stem equals the birth-year stem (or a stem that puts Qing Yang in the same place, such as Bing and Wu), at least once every ten years. Legend has Xi Shi drowned in the end, and the Quan Shu uses her for beauty that perishes early. As written it is a heavy verdict, but the condition is too common to be taken as certain.

✎ Note

14陀羅 廟辰戌丑未 陷寅申巳亥

TranslationTuo Luo's brightness: Miao in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei; Xian in Yin, Shen, Si and Hai.

廟
Miao (Temple): the position where a star works best.
陷
Xian (Fallen): a position where the star has no strength.
Commentary

Tuo Luo always sits in the palace before Lu Cun and falls only in Chou, Yin, Chen, Si, Wei, Shen, Xu and Hai; it never appears in Zi, Wu, Mao or You. This table too is Miao in the four tombs and Xian in the four birth palaces (Yin, Shen, Si and Hai), mirroring Qing Yang: Qing Yang's fallen positions are the four cardinal palaces, Tuo Luo's the four birth palaces. Tuo Luo belongs to metal and its transformed qi is obstruction; its nature is delay and entanglement, unlike Qing Yang's direct injury. For Tuo Luo's character as a whole, see The Nature of Tuo Luo.

✎ Note

15陀羅巳亥寅申非夭折而刑傷 余試得多離祖出外成家者亦吉,主生人有破相。

TranslationTuo Luo in Si, Hai, Yin or Shen: if not an early death, then injury. (Note) I have tested it and found that those who mostly leave the ancestral home and set up a household elsewhere are lucky too; it means the person's face is marked.

Commentary

Tuo Luo is fallen in Yin, Shen, Si and Hai: if not an early death, then injury. The note's 「余試得多離祖出外成家者亦吉」 is one of the rare places where the Quan Shu records an actual test in the first person, showing that the annotator had chart-reading experience of his own. Tuo Luo is in Yin in Yi years, in Shen in Xin years, in Si in Ding and Ji years, and in Hai in Gui years. It can mean a hard early life that goes better after leaving home, and the 'marked face' is a reminder that the body easily keeps scars.

✎ Note
Base text (Wikisource, partly in simplified Chinese)
擎羊 庙辰戌丑未 陷子午卯酉 擎羊入庙富贵声扬 加吉万论。 羊火同宫威权压众 辰戍人佳,丑未次之。 羊陀铃火守身命腰驼背曲之人 擎羊子午卯酉非夭折而刑伤 午凶卯次之。子酉又次之,马头带剑,吉多勿论。 擎羊逢力士李广难封 甲生人命卯,丙生人命午,庚生人命酉,壬生人命子。吉多平常,加杀则凶 羊陀火铃逢吉发财凶则忌 羊铃坐命流年白虎灾伤 流年白虎,又到命宫也。 擎羊对守在酉宫岁迭羊陀庚命凶 除宫亦忌,守命宫有羊陀。流年遇羊陀,为迭并。 羊陀夹忌为败局 假如安命在申宫,又逢忌星,羊在酉陀在未夹之,余皆仿此为例。命岁凶孤贫刑克。若单守禄存无吉星同垣,亦有灾殃之凶。 羊陀流年铃破面字斑痕 擎羊火星为下格 擎羊重逢流羊西施倾殒身 岁限重逢。 陀罗 庙辰戌丑未 陷寅申巳亥 陀罗巳亥寅申非夭折而刑伤 余试得多离祖出外成家者亦吉,主生人有破相。

FAQ

In which palaces are Qing Yang and Tuo Luo Miao or fallen?

Volume three of the Quan Shu says Qing Yang is Miao in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei and Xian in Zi, Wu, Mao and You, and Tuo Luo is Miao in Chen, Xu, Chou and Wei and Xian in Yin, Shen, Si and Hai, the same as Xingge.

Is Qing Yang in the Life Palace always bad?

Not necessarily. The Quan Shu says 「擎羊入廟富貴聲揚」, and Qing Yang with Huo Xing in one palace 「威權壓眾」; but fallen in Zi, Wu, Mao or You it is 「非夭折而刑傷」.

What is Hua Ji flanked by Qing Yang and Tuo Luo?

The palace holding Hua Ji is flanked on either side by Qing Yang and Tuo Luo. The Quan Shu's example is a Life Palace in Shen with Hua Ji, Qing Yang in You and Tuo Luo in Wei, which it calls a ruined pattern: meeting it in the Life Palace or a luck period brings loneliness, poverty and harm.

What does Qing Yang meeting Li Shi mean?

The Quan Shu says 「擎羊逢力士李廣難封」, and the note lists people born in Jia years with the Life Palace in Mao, Bing in Wu, Geng in You and Ren in Zi; like the Han general Li Guang, who won battle after battle all his life but was never made a marquis.

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